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Old 10-15-2008, 04:39 PM
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That must be 20 new feet.

My current objective is to calculate how many of each type of part will be added.
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Old 10-15-2008, 05:10 PM
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Haha good point.

GG SecuROM.

I wouldn't blame SecuROM for pirating of the new patch, I'm blaming the price itself. It just seems steep to me. Consider what you get in the patch that will affect your gameplay....

72 new body parts - Ok, yes.
2 new backgrounds for the spore creature creator - Do you really check the backgrounds in the creature creator now? I jump into the test drive to make sure my creature walks decently, that's it.
36 new scripts (12 bases, 12 paints & 12 Details) - Ok, yes again.
12 new painting motifs - Meh, it's just for those people who are too lazy to test all the colors themself
24 new test-animations - Back to the... do you use test drive often? It won't change game play....

So, you have the 72 new parts and 12-12-12 new color sets to change your gaming experience... for $20. And from the new article posted in another thread, 20/72 of those parts are just feet. Feet seem a little boring to me, how much attention to you pay to the feet of creatures you see in game? Then on top of that... coats and details don't really catch my eye either in most scenarios, mostly because the procedural coding has a hard time defining the "back"...aka "top" of a up-right creature. (Meaning stripes along the back of a creature are only on the creature's head, because of spine curves... hard to describe)
So... 52 pieces and 12 paint jobs... for $20. Doesn't seem to cut it for me. If it were maybe $15, it might twist my arm, this is because bank machines dispence $20 bills, and I'd be getting change back after buying the game.
...Walmart better be selling it for $18 max if EA wants my money.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:37 AM
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Good point. 72 parts isn't even half what we got for the CC, and the new expansion is double the price.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:18 AM
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well the fact is there's enough people out there with no money sense like dragon.

Yes, because anyone who has $20 extra to spend on something they actually want has no money sense. Listen, some of us make between $40-$150 a night in cash working 5 nights a week on top of a $600 paycheck every two weeks. Some of us have real jobs, where $20 is basically throw away money. FFS, I go out for a cup of coffee at Denny's and tip $20 when I'm in a good mood; partially because I'm a server myself and also I sit there for a good three hours, but either way.

I throw about $60-$150 a month on video games and stuff, and can still manage to save up about $1k or more each month after other expenses; reason being, I have a job. If you're just making minimum wage and that's it, I can see you being a little hesitant, but if you even make $9/hour I think you could easily afford to spend $20 on something like this, as long as you enjoy the game.

That's what it all comes down to, do you enjoy the game as it is? Do you want it to be even better? Is this worth it to you? If you answered no to any of these questions then stop bitching about the price and stuff up, no one needs to know how you feel about something you have a negative inclination towards in the first place.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:18 PM
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Well Gigify, you clearly have no idea what it's like to be middle class. I was going to go on a rant equal to your's on this, but it'd be like trying to tell a blind person why he should look at a rainbow because the colors are so pretty. (Of course, that's actually what you just did)

The polite reply (and most logical to point out) is that this game is targeted towards a younger audience (Proof in the topic: http://www.xspore.com/community/spor...r-feather.html) Now how many kids have money? Not many... and even fewer have any money sense (yes, there are exceptions to the rule, there are young children with excellent money sense; but to quote George Carlin, "Kids are like any other group of people: a few winners...a whole lot of losers") point I'm going for though, is if its viable in its price. Like I pointed towards before... with a price like that, I can foresee even people that paid for Spore the game might pirate this expansion pack because it doesn't make a equal cost:reward ratio.

My girlfriend came straight out and suggested I do that... and she plays my game of Spore when she visits my place, she's the daughter of a Doctor and Reserves officer... AND she's catholic! That translates to: She comes from upper middle class (or better), comes from a strong moral compass, doesn't even own the game, and still out-rightly opposes the price. (Though she is a bit crazy, after all, she's dating me)
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:25 PM
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Well Gigify, you clearly have no idea what it's like to be middle class. I was going to go on a rant equal to your's on this, but it'd be like trying to tell a blind person why he should look at a rainbow because the colors are so pretty. (Of course, that's actually what you just did)

The polite reply (and most logical to point out) is that this game is targeted towards a younger audience (Proof in the topic: http://www.xspore.com/community/spor...r-feather.html) Now how many kids have money? Not many... and even fewer have any money sense (yes, there are exceptions to the rule, there are young children with excellent money sense; but to quote George Carlin, "Kids are like any other group of people: a few winners...a whole lot of losers") point I'm going for though, is if its viable in its price. Like I pointed towards before... with a price like that, I can foresee even people that paid for Spore the game might pirate this expansion pack because it doesn't make a equal cost:reward ratio.

My girlfriend came straight out and suggested I do that... and she plays my game of Spore when she visits my place, she's the daughter of a Doctor and Reserves officer... AND she's catholic! That translates to: She comes from upper middle class (or better), comes from a strong moral compass, doesn't even own the game, and still out-rightly opposes the price. (Though she is a bit crazy, after all, she's dating me)

Oh yeah, of course, I'm not middle class even though I only make like $25k a year. Did you even read what I posted? Oh wow, just because I'm making good money and have plenty to spend because I'm not forcing myself in debt like everyone around me buying things that really are expensive that I don't need like brand new Hummers and $3000 flatscreen 60in TVs acting like these things are imperative. Walking to work and back to save the money for gas.
No, like I said, I'm just good with my damn money and I'd thank you not to personally insult me because of that fact.

The game's not targeted towards a younger audience. The game is targeted towards a broader audience. There is a difference. You must learn it.

$20 isn't much for a kid to earn, if a kid sees this and wants it he could shovel snow or rake leaves and make $20 in a week or less.

I never said I didn't oppose the price, it's overpriced, I agree. All I was saying is that $20 isn't a lot of money. It's three hours of work at minimum wage, which won't kill you.

Also, no pirate talk, especially in the way you did in your post, edit it please.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:08 PM
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20 bucks isnt a lot at all, and im a kid, save up lunch money or shovel drive ways, even one driveway could get you 10 bucks.




but does anybody know if you can buy it in stores, or get it shipped? like on the site it just says direct download
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:20 AM
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I agree with the rest of you guys, 20$ is steep, BUT, I LOVE the mouth on that creepy one, that ONE mouth makes it all worth while, also I'm guessing that 36 plus or minus creepy parts exist,I SOOOO want to see them, someone get a pic!!!!!
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:19 AM
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This is awesome

EDIT: For some people like me, 20 bucks is skipping a week of going to the laundromat.
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:08 AM
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While $20 is pretty cheap for anyone with a full time job, the perceived value of the thing your buying is important too. $20 is hardly a big dent in my monthly paycheck, but if I don't particularly like the contents of the parts expansion that $20 would be better spent on something else.
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:01 PM
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No, like I said, I'm just good with my damn money and I'd thank you not to personally insult me because of that fact.
You came off a bit high and mighty in your post, I was merely trying to point out not everyone has the same lack of expenses as you do.

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Also, no pirate talk, especially in the way you did in your post, edit it please.
I said my girlfriend came straight out and said it. I didn't encourage it nor promote it; did you even read my posts? (As in the 2 previous ones I made in this topic.)

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I can foresee even people that paid for Spore the game might pirate this
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My girlfriend came straight out and suggested I do that.
The 2nd sentence/quote merely backs up my argument of people not liking the price in my original point of stated in the post I made PREVIOUS to my last one, being that the game is over priced:
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I'm blaming the price itself. It just seems steep to me.
Linear trains of thought, but over multiple posts, complicated to follow I know. Sorry.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:32 PM
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Can't wait for it to come out. $20 isn't too much for me. I'm excited to see what other expansion packs they'll come out with later on.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:17 AM
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I said my girlfriend came straight out and said it. I didn't encourage it nor promote it; did you even read my posts? (As in the 2 previous ones I made in this topic.)
Yeah, I did, and I'm sticking to the no pirate talk thing, considering that talking about it in any context can get Dream in trouble. We don't mention it, we don't talk about it, we act like it doesn't exist. It's the same in every forum hosted in the US, site owners can be fined and have their sites shut down for any discussion of pirating and in some cases even just talk of torrents, so just please don't do it again.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:24 PM
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If there aren't any gameplay elements added, I'm not buying it.

yes there is going to be new gameplay addons:

CONFIRMED INFO:
Making gameplay more fun and challenging adding some stuff to ingame mode other than parts (only says parts pack because thats the main feature 180PARTS CONFIRMED NOW WOOT)
New emotions
New way to make creatures (catagorys for parts now ex: Heads: Cute heads,Creapy heads)
More things for space stage (new tools like shields or guns or sculpting tools)
More attacks for creature stage
More socail features for creature stage

UNCONFIRMED INFO THEY SAY THEY MAY DO THIS:
Harder and longer Creature Stage
MORE THEN 1 DIMENSIONS! and longer space stage
Harder and longer tribal stage
HARD only skill level for cell stage
New hazards like acid pit and mutation pond (mutation pond mixes up pieces that are mutation only parts on your creature ex: you grow a third arm and loose a foot or leg and replaces an eye)

a "more realistic mating" if you know what i mean (making the expansion pack T for teen 15+ or M for 18+)
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:27 PM
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Post your source(s) or none of that can be believed.
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:05 PM
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wtf?

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Oooookaay, is anybody else SLIGHTLY worried about the fact that the "realistic science game that got cute" problem amongst this forum is going to become EXPONENTIALLY worse?

Who ever said Spore was a realistic science game that got cute? I think the realism is a bit far removed. PEOPLE!!! THIS IS A GAME!!!
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:34 PM
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Who ever said Spore was a realistic science game that got cute? I think the realism is a bit far removed. PEOPLE!!! THIS IS A GAME!!!
Thoughts on Spore from an ex-Maxis intern.

Read. This is what he's talking about.


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Harder and longer Creature Stage
MORE THEN 1 DIMENSIONS! and longer space stage
Harder and longer tribal stage
HARD only skill level for cell stage
New hazards like acid pit and mutation pond

Okay, if by harder they mean deeper and more involving then yes, that should be included (what the hell am I saying, that should've been in the game from the start) but the last thing I want to do is to have Spore's nightmarish gameplay made longer and, dear God, harder.

The Dimensions idea seems slightly interesting though, but I doubt that they would implement it right even if they did add it. As for the hazards, just seems as a way to make the game more annoying than it already is.

I would, however, bother to see what the Space expansion includes seeing as it is said to add actual gameplay elements. Anyone know yet?
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:17 PM
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I go back and forth on this alot. Some days I want it, others I don't. I guess we'll have to see what happens when it comes out and how much money I have for splurging.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:27 AM
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What depresses me is that I'm having to decide whether to get the expansion based on how much space it's likely to take up on my hard drive... my laptop sucks with a capital "S"
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:29 AM
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Any amount of money for parts!! Sorry two words

Fuck that

Maybe I should start doing start a business drawing body parts in paint shop or even doing some skinning, some developer demos and start charging, bloody mugs, you would honestly pay for glorified clip art lol

SOme people are buttoned up the back likes I bet you much of this was already taken out the game so they could milk buyers for all they had so lets see whats been cut out our original spore, this stinks of that

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CONFIRMED INFO:
Making gameplay more fun and challenging adding some stuff to ingame mode other than parts (only says parts pack because thats the main feature 180PARTS CONFIRMED NOW WOOT)
New emotions
New way to make creatures (catagorys for parts now ex: Heads: Cute heads,Creapy heads)
More things for space stage (new tools like shields or guns or sculpting tools)
More attacks for creature stage
More socail features for creature stage

UNCONFIRMED INFO THEY SAY THEY MAY DO THIS:
Harder and longer Creature Stage
MORE THEN 1 DIMENSIONS! and longer space stage
Harder and longer tribal stage
HARD only skill level for cell stage
New hazards like acid pit and mutation pond (mutation pond mixes up pieces that are mutation only parts on your creature ex: you grow a third arm and loose a foot or leg and replaces an eye)

a "more realistic mating" if you know what i mean (making the expansion pack T for teen 15+ or M for 18+)