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inb4player ranting about pc pwnage

It really depends on the TV. In most cases, a TV can't support the picture quality of an equivalent monitor (in fact, the only exception I can think of are TV Monitors that are designed for both purposes, but typically they're more expensive than TV's or monitors).


Umm, they do have those things? There are fighting and racing games for PC.


It's killed the gaming industry? Then why are so many games made exclusively for PC? Crysis, World in Conflict, and many more. In fact, we'll be seeing even more PC exclusive games in the coming years as developers start utilizing DX10. PS3 for all it's fancy advanced hardware, nor the Wii can support DX10 and it will start to become a turn off to developers.

Also, you're under the assumption that console games are not pirated. This is not the case, most PS2 and XBox exclusive games can be found on PC emulated.

Unlike PC games, just about any PS or XBox game can be emulated for PC. PC games are very difficult to emulate onto a console.


You are the MAN!!!(butter).

In after player ranting about pc pwnage.

PC all the way, unless you prefere mindless killing.

Why do people see consoles as one block and pcs as another. there's no alliance between all the consoles

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Sorry to say this, but PCs are a dead duck right now.

There is literally no great games coming out for them. The only 2 that jump to mind that I'd actually want are Spore and Empire Total War, apart from them, the platform might as well not exist.

On consoles though, what a brilliant time there having, GTAIV has just come out, brilliant game, MGS4 looks awesome, Resistance 2, Motorstorm Pacific Rift, GT5, FF13, Killzone 2, GRID......I could go on, and yes I'm the PS3 dude.

Oh and PCs aren't a console, just thought I'd mention that.

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PC <-- nuff Said

all consoles are obsolete in every way no matter the argument when compared to a pc

sept maybe price but than can be delt with.

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No good games coming out for PC? You must not pay much attention?

Left 4 Dead will be for PC and XBox 360 only. Sorry PS3.

Duke Nukem Forever

Bioshock 2 for PC and XBox 360 only.

Company of Heroes Online for PC only.

Doom 4 (will probably be PC and XBox 360 only since it will likely utilize DX10).

Prey 2 for PC and XBox 360 only.

STALKER: Clear Sky for PC only.

Starcraft 2.

Stargate Worlds for PC only.

Wolfenstein for PC and XBox 360 only.

And much much more...

Sadly PC gaming is in a large decline because of pirating. Yes consoles can be pirated but most require you to open up and physically modify your console. Wile with PC it just requires you to download the game and play. Console pirates are such a low minority it's not very noticeable where as PC gamers the majority are pirates. Many developers are now switch from PC development to Console development for this reason. A good recent example would be Crytek the creators of Far Cry and Crysis. Right now Steam and other clients like it seem to be the only glimmering light in what now is the dark ages of pc game development. : P

Which is really quite sad since PC Development is the industry I'm trying to break into now. : /

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This is simply not true.

Firstly, you don't have to physically modify a console to pirate console games. In fact, you don't even need a console to pirate them.

As I stated, PC emulation can emulate most console games (Nintendo has been the most difficult because the GameCube ran miniDVD's in reverse, and Wii games aren't designed for typical drivers).

Crytek has NOT switched to consoles. [[Edit: FarCry is also available for PS3 but won't have DX10 on PS3, it is being developed for PC]]. PS3 and the Wii are at the distinct disadvantage of not being able to support DX10 (and never will be) and game developers will start to shy away from them, not PC's. Wii's market isn't geared toward the graphic intense games and thus it won't hurt them as bad. PS3 IS geared toward this market but can't actually provide quality games in contrast to DX10 supporting systems. Before PS3 can even get a good go it's already going to be out of date.

In the past years, game development on PC (as well as consoles) has continued to spiral. To state otherwise is simply incorrect.

There are a number of companies that continue to support PC's exclusively, THQ being an example. It's more difficult to find companies that cater to consoles specifically because console games must be marketed to be profitable. PC developers can start in their own basements releasing free to play games to make a name for themselves.

Emulators? You need a pretty high end system to run current system emulators if there even are any stable ones out. (Your talking about Software emulation instead of actual hardware emulation. Big speed and performance difference) And no th reason isn't just pirating alone. Console games are easier to develop for. Why? You have one global spec you have to worry about. Where as for PC you only have a slight idea of a handful of possible user specs.

IGN: Developer Stardock Says Piracy Isn't Killing PC Gaming

Yeah sure wile garage and Indie games will always be present on the PC. Big Triple A titles just don't do as well on the PC as they do on the console. PC Gaming has been on steady decline since the 90s. It's gotten especially worse in the recent years because of the pirating and console games tapping into the online gameing market.

THQ: PC 'Disc-Based Software Is on a Permanent Decline' | Game | Life from Wired.com
Next up to blame piracy for PC gaming's decline: Peter Moore
Crytek swears off PC-exclusive games due to piracy
Another blow for PC gaming: EA drops PC version of Madden '09

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You are correct, but PC's will continue to be upgradeable. Consoles aren't and never will be, and as I said, you don't see PC games emulated for consoles and probably never will.


There are 2 main things you have to be concerned about when developing games for PC. Operating System, and 3D rendering. With DX10 having strict requirements on what qualifies a card as being DX10 complaint, you eliminate the 2nd concern entirely. With only the OS being a serious concern, PC's become about as easy to develop for as developing for multiple consoles.

Not to mention, most developers choose what they intend their market to be and build the game around that, determining the system requirements in retrospect.

With the release of DX10, PS3 and Wii will be at a serious disadvantage. Given the choice of developing games for XBox 360 and DX10 for PC, or developing for DX10, DX9, and OpenGL (to run on PS3) developers are likely to forsake the PS3 or go for the PS3 exclusively. Most developers are not going to say "no" to the $1 billion dollar PC gaming industry (not including subscription costs or microtransactions, only new sales) JUST to cater to the PS3.


Don't underestimate garage or Indie games either. These games have repeatedly influenced gaming market and the direction that game developers take with their games. Many of these garage projects wind up being far more revolutionary and fun than the "Big Triple A" titles. Since this is not likely ever to be a part of console gaming, consoles miss out on a big part of gaming change and development.

In terms of sales per game, you're right, the PC industry has declined. But in terms of sales for subscription:



PC's are over $3 billion this year and will continue to INCREASE. Game subscriptions are much more profitable than game sales and act as a huge incentive for game developers. With consoles accounting for less than 25% of this $4.5 billion dollar industry, gamer developers that want large profit margins will look more toward PC's than consoles.

Here's an interesting read for you:

GDC 08: Can These Men Save PC Gaming? | Tom's Games

"Stude's figures stated that PC gaming revenue was worth approximately $2.76 billion in 2007, a 12% increase year-over-year from 2006. The forecast for 2008 is an estimated 14% increase over the 2007 revenue. From the look of the numbers the PC gaming business is growing not shrinking, and the 263 million PC gamers online at the end of 2007 will only grow substantially through 2008."

PC isn't a console, which is why I didn't vote for it. I have a Wii and 360, I voted 360.

Hahahaha, the Wii came out two days after the PS3. Get your facts straight.

I voted PC because... It's just better.

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Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?

PC is not a console !

It is more of a system or platform. Because PC's are not only used for gaming they cannot be called a Gaming console.

Yes I prefer PC games but it is still not a console.

I voted PS3

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Hmmm... If you started this thread a year ago I might go on some dumbass fanboy rant about why I love the PS3, but since Sony is about as responsive as a dead horse I'll stop. Sony is fucking retarded, Microsoft is evil, and Nintendo is insane. Pick your choice.

The Wii is great if you're still in elementary school, the 360 is great if you enjoy crushing beer cans over your head while you spew racist comments at anyone who isn't white or middle class. The PS3 is great if you enjoy waiting for vaporware or you just WANT TO PLAY MGS4 REALLY BADLY. (I'm in the latter category)

Lets put it this way: Sony announced the Dualshock 3 in September of 07. They were able to release it in April of 2008. We're talking about a controller. It wasn't even a different controller. All they had to do was throw the same rumble they had last generation into this controller, and it took them seven months. Try to digest that with me.

Don't get me wrong. The PS3 has excellent games. Uncharted is excellent, as is Motorstorm, Resistance, and Warhawk. (I'm particularly in love with Warhawk. The online is excellent and continued support through cheap DLC packs is always welcome.)

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*Totally ignoring XSpore since September 7th, 2008*

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PC is not a console. You cannot compare PC's to Consoles yet.

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I used to work at the entertainment counter at Woolworths and for about 7 months after its release we never had a Wii in stock for whole day. We would get a delivery on Sunday. Put them out on Monday and they would all sell in one day, so we'd have to go the whole week with out any again. It was the same for the DS too. I worked there about a year after the PS3 launch and during that period I didnt sell one. Our stockroom was full of them, we had to send some back to the main office because we needed to make room in the store cupboard for more Wiis. You could also guarentee that every phone call from a customer we recieved would be about Wiis or DSs.

Also someone said the majority of people in the world have a computer, well thats simply not true, the majority of Americans or Europeans might but what about people living in the Third World, i think i read somewhere that only 6% of the worlds population regulary uses the internet, and 55% of that number are Americans.

Well I have all of the consoles and play the most on the 360 so I would have to say that that was the best although it is probably because there are no majorly good Wii or PS3 games out yet (That are exclusive) Although Haze comes out on the 23rd may for the PS3 only and I do intend to get that.....

In writing this I have decided that the console does not make itself good it is the games that are avaliable for it like the exclusives that make the console unique in some way.

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Using the internet regularly is alot different to owning a computer

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PS3 is -weak-. A week after it came out, most of my friends who bought it said they had faulty PS3s that had a crash bug.

Btw, PC is *not* a console. PC is a Computer, and uses Computer games.
A Playstation, xBox, etc, is a Video Games Console, and uses Video Games.

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